Ukrainians about Russians. Pre-revolutionary Russians about Ukrainians and the Ukrainian idea (interesting quotes)

Considering the increased activity on the Internet of all kinds of Ukrainian-non-Russians advocating that Russia and Ukraine would always remain enemies, I think a short excursion into the topic of who benefits from parades of hamsters who hate the probable reunification of Russia would be useful.

For whom is the stuffing of various Dzygovbrodskys, aimed at dividing the Russian world, useful?

For whom are the hataskrayniks trying to write on behalf of the Russians, and in their posts and articles, hating any possibility of restoration Greater Russia.

I will not insist on the authenticity of all quotes attributed to Bismarck, but I have no doubt that these quotes are more relevant than ever. So:

“Prince Otto von Bismarck, called in 1862 by King Wilhelm I to the post of Minister-President of Prussia, 9 years later received almost unlimited power as Imperial Chancellor.

But long before that, from 1859 to 1862. , von Bismarck was the German ambassador to Russia, so he knew the Russians quite well and,

being a talented person,

understood what the strength of the Russians was and what their weakness was.

Bismarck also understood that the Russians could not be defeated with weapons,

and therefore, when planning Germany’s strategy, the Chancellor devoted a lot of energy to the ideological war.

In fact, it was he, Otto von Bismarck, who stood behind the idea of ​​​​creating Ukraine and recognized

that the term “Ukraine” really appeals to him.

On Bismarck's maps, Ukraine stretched from Saratov and Volgograd in the northeast to Makhachkala in the south.

The Ukrainization program was launched by Austria-Hungary in late XIX centuries,

and this was based on the re-identification of Little Russians

and Galician Rusyns

in the so-called “Ukrainians”.

By the way, neither the “moderate” Russophobe Taras Shevchenko,

neither the “terry” Lesya Ukrainka has such terms,

as “Ukrainian”, “Ukrainian nation”,

and there are Slavs, Little Russians, Rusyns.

But von Bismarck's plans began to be realized and,

according to the 1908 census,

Up to 1% of residents of southwest Russia have already identified themselves as Ukrainians.

In Germany it was “scientifically proven”

that Russians are not Slavs and not even Aryans

(although the tribes from which the Germans and Slavs came

that’s what they call it - Slavic-Germanic tribes),

and representatives of a certain Mongol-Finnish tribe, “Mankruts”

In 1898, the idea of ​​creating an “independent Ukrainian nation” within the framework of autonomy on the territory of Austria-Hungary was launched in Germany.

In the press controlled by Vienna, instead of the concepts “Rus”, “Russian”, the terms “Ukraine”, “Ukrainian”, etc. began to be circulated.

In the memoirs of General Hoffmann in 1926 one can read:

“The creation of Ukraine is not the result of the initiative of the Russian people, but is the result of the activities of my intelligence service.”

And here is the opinion of the French consul Emile Hainault (1918):

“Ukraine has never had its own history and national distinctiveness.

It was created by the Germans.

The pro-German government of Skoropadsky must be liquidated." The French side - an ally of the Russians in the 1st World War - is easy to understand, because the so-called Ukrainian People's Republic (UNR) actually from the moment of its creation became a servant of the master,

Germany, in matters strategic support Germans with food and industrial raw materials,

as well as location armed forces Germany and Austria-Hungary.

Adolf Schicklgruber (Hitler) acted similarly to Bismarck, under whom the Ukrainian “Sechs” degenerated into the structures of UNA-UPA-UNSO.

But let’s return to von Bismarck, who actively supported, among other things, the development of the Ukrainian language.

“The power of Russia,” wrote Bismarck, “can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to contrast Ukraine with Russia,

pit two parts of a single people against each other and observe

how brother will kill brother.

To do this, you just need to find and nurture traitors among the national elite and with their help change the self-awareness of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their family, without realizing it.

Everything else is a matter of time.”

“After the annexation of Finland, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Bessarabia and the Black Sea coast,

it will cease to be a European great power

and will again become what it was before Peter the Great"

German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck once said:

“There is nothing more vile and disgusting than the so-called “Ukrainians”!

This rabble, raised by the Poles from the most vile scum of the Russian people (murderers, careerists, intelligentsia groveling before power), is ready to kill their own father and mother for power and a profitable position!

These degenerates are ready to tear apart their fellow tribesmen, and not even for the sake of profit,

and for the sake of satisfying your baser instincts,

for them nothing is sacred,

betrayal is the norm for them,

they are wretched in mind, malicious, envious, cunning with a special cunning.

These non-humans have absorbed all the worst and basest things from the Russians, Poles, and Austrians, for good qualities there was no room left in their souls.

Most of all they hate their benefactors,

those who did them good

and are ready to grovel before strongmen of the world this.

They are not adapted to anything and can only perform primitive work,

they could never create their own state,

many countries chased them like a ball throughout Europe,

slave instincts are so ingrained in them,

that they covered their entire being with disgusting sores!”

OTTO von BISMARCK (1815-1898)

- "Iron Chancellor"

“The Russians harness slowly, but drive quickly.”

“Russia is dangerous due to the meagerness of its

needs."

"Preventive war against Russia is suicide due to fear of death."

“The Russians cannot be defeated, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But Russians can be instilled with false values ​​and then they will defeat themselves.”

“Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main strength of Russia, which is based on millions of Russians.”

“Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia’s weakness,

you will receive dividends forever.

Russians always come for their money.

And when they come, do not rely on the Jesuit agreements you signed, which supposedly justify you.

They are not worth the paper they are written on.

Therefore, you should either play fairly with the Russians, or not play at all.”

“He, as always, with a prima donna smile on his lips and an ice compress on his heart” (about the chancellor Russian Empire Gorchakov).

“Never fight the Russians.

They will respond to your every military stratagem with unpredictable stupidity." (c)

Today Taras Shevchenko as a poet and writerthe most dedicated monuments in the world. There are 1,100 Shevchenko monuments around the globe.

What did the “classic of Ukrainian literature” think about the Katsaps and Ukrainians?

"They believe that this poem is a fake andreworking of Derzhavin’s poem “The Nobleman”:

"A donkey will remain a donkey
Although shower him with stars;
Where should one act with the mind,
He just flaps his ears.
ABOUT! the hand of happiness is in vain,
Against the natural rank,
Dresses a madman as a master,
Or into the hype of a fool."

: There is an opinion that crests have always been divided into two. Some licked Europe's ass. Others gravitated towards Muscovy. Some betrayed the faith of their fathers and became Uniates, Baptists and Catholics. Others remained Orthodox, i.e. Russians. So Shevchenko could well have written this about Ukrainians—Westerners (Zapadentsy)—traitors to the Russian idea.

And here is the opinion of the true “Ukra”:

It’s hard to believe that this simple folk poem was written by our genius Shevchenko: after all, he never doubted the planetary greatness of the Ukrainian nation. After all, it was the Ukrainians who invented the wheel, taught humanity to sculpt pots and wear embroidered shirts, along the way discovered America and sank Atlantis, which tried helplessly to challenge the global priority of our nation. Military Valor Ukrainians generally know no limits: Gatilo conquered the entire ancient world, Ukrainians led Crusades, a Corsican (he was born in Korsun-Shevchenkovsky) burned Moscow, and Oles Makeevsky (the Muscovites turned him into Alexander the Great) annexed Crimea and Kamchatka to Ukraine. Glory to Ukraine, as well as to all the heroes (from Bandera to Pan Yarosh)!

Let's bring the revelation people's artist Ukraine, deputy from the VO "Svoboda", nationalist B.M. Benyuk from 03/24/2014: “Ukrainians are a nation of traitors, those who are constantly looking for a warm place.” Benyuk explained this phrase by the fact that in the character of Ukrainians there is a craving for betrayal and they know how to adapt and ingratiate themselves. But the Ukrainians themselves, according to Benyuk, do not understand this. He regarded his words not as an insult, but as a statement of fact.

In 1840, Taras Grigorievich asks his brother not to write to him in Russian: “So that I can at least read your letter on a foreign side in human language.”

Muscovites are strangers
It's hard to live with them.
No one to cry with
No talking.

Another thought from Shevchenko T.G. about the Katsaps:

“The Jewish principle is in the Russian man. He cannot even fall in love without a dowry.”

This well-known and not so well-known Taras Grigorievich Shevchenko gave everyone “nuts” and earrings to all the sisters.

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Ivan Franko: We need to learn to feel like Ukrainians without social boundaries

Throughout Ukraine's turbulent history, she was admired and empathized with. In honor of the 23rd anniversary of the country's Independence, New Time presents a selection of quotes about Ukraine

Poetess Lina Kostenko about shine:

- And you thought that Ukraine was so simple. Ukraine is super. Ukraine is exclusive. All the skating rinks of history have walked along it. All types of tests have been tested on it. She is hardened to the highest degree. In conditions modern world she has no price.

Frenchman Bernard-Henri Levy about Maidan:

- There are two types of Europeans. Some people think that Europe is just a big market. And others say that these are values, spirit, culture. [...] The second category of Europeans thinks that you are the best Europeans today. And that if there is a place where the “flame of Europe” burns today, then it burns on the Maidan.

Theorist of Ukrainian nationalism Dmitry Dontsov about Ukrainian statehood at the beginning of the 20th century:

- Ukraine does not exist yet, but we can create it in our souls.

Leader of the group Okean Elzy Svyatoslav Vakarchuk about the main task for Ukrainians in 2014:

- Now these are “fun” times for the country. It is not an easy task to survive them with dignity. but we will learn, we will definitely learn. There would be desire and will.

One of the covenants Ivan Franko:

- We need to learn to feel like Ukrainians - not Galician, not Bukovinian Ukrainians, but Ukrainians without social boundaries.

Poet Vasily Stus about Soviet Ukraine:

“The people are still just comprehending the constitutional scope of their freedom, and the government is already shooting.

Historian and politician of the early 20th century Mikhail Grushevsky:

- The trouble with Ukraine is that it is led by those who don’t need it.

Poet Oleg Olzhich about the deep process:

- The entire history of Ukraine is a struggle between two forces: constructive, which accumulates power in order to turn it outward, and destructive, which disperses it in mutual self-devouring and brings fragmentation and disintegration.

The character of the "Pathetique Sonata" by a playwright from the generation of the "executed revival" Nikolai Kulish:

- The best ally is the one who speaks Ukrainian with a weapon.

Diary entry Alexandra Dovzhenko in 1942:

- At the university, only freshmen and poets spoke Ukrainian. The rest are all in Russian, to the delight of Hitler.

Writer Svetlana Pyrkalo on the difference between the atmosphere in Britain and in Ukraine:

- In Britain there is no such despair as in Ukraine. A certain tension: “God, where is everything going? How will it be?” A certain depressive undertone. On the one hand, this is not very good, but, on the other hand, there are always so many different stories in Ukraine."

Character from the book "And Everything Illuminated" Jonathan Safran Foer about crime:

- People in Ukraine have a bad but popular habit of taking things without asking. I read that New York City is very dangerous, but I must say that Ukraine is more dangerous. If you want to know who is protecting you from people who take without asking, it’s the police. If you want to know who protects you from the police, then these are the people who take without asking. And often these are the same people.

Actor Bohdan Mortar about the difference in self-awareness:

- Everyone tells me: Bogdan, you are obsessed with your Ukrainians. But I recently found out that Freud’s family was from Ukraine, from the town of Tysmenitsa. I went there. Well, I say, Freud is from your area. And they have no idea. Everyone is sitting and sewing mink coats.

Michael Bulgakov, in whose work Kyiv left a bright mark:

- Muscovites are toothy, assertive, flying, hurrying, Americanized. The people of Kiev are quiet, slow and without any Americanization. But people love the American style. Kievans love stories about Moscow, but I do not advise any Muscovite to tell them anything. Because as soon as you step outside the threshold, they will unanimously recognize you as a liar. For your pure truth.

Bassist of the group RHCP Flea before a concert in Kyiv in 2012:

- Kyiv blows my mind - what a beautiful city. The people are nice and nice. The streets are beautiful. The architecture is old and mesmerizing.

"Melpomene of the Ukrainian stage" Maria Zankovetskaya at one time she refused to move to Moscow and “make the Russian scene happy”:

- Our Ukraine is too poor to leave. I love her, my Ukraine, and her theater too much to accept your offer.

A Frenchman close to the Russian royal court Francois Mason wrote at the beginning of the 19th century:

- The warlike nation of Cossacks is decreasing day by day. She will soon disappear from globe, as others disappeared under the pressure of the Russian scepter. Unless some happy revolution will come in the near future to free her from the yoke that destroys and crushes her.

Russian oppositionist Valeria Novodvorskaya about Ukraine’s European choice:

- The Ukrainian army is fighting not for the integrity of Ukraine, but for Ukraine to survive. I broke away from our damned, pathetic, slave, evil Russia. I’m telling you this as a native of Russia - I know what’s happening here. For Ukraine to eat a little something, dress up, go to Europe and live there peacefully, calmly and happily - like Europeans. As you understand, fascism is not planned there - in Europe.

Vladimir Vinnichenko Hungarian Bela Kun in 1919 about Russian communists:

- Remember my words: they will destroy you, us and themselves on the Ukrainian issue.

Honore de Balzac During his first trip to Volyn to his future wife Evelina Ganskaya, he wrote about the Ukrainian land:

- This is the desert, the kingdom of bread, this is the Cooper prairie with its silence. Here begins the Ukrainian black soil, a layer of black and thick soil fifty feet thick, and often more, it is never fertilized.

Chilean poet Pablo Neruda, awarded Nobel Prize, admired Crimea:

- Crimea is a magnificent medal that God awarded the globe.

18th century German scientist Johann Gottfried Herder about the prospects for Ukrainians:

- Ukraine will someday become a new Greece: a beautiful place under the Sun of this region, the cheerful disposition of the people, their musical talent, fertile land, someday there will be an awakening: from small tribes, like the Greeks were, a large, cultural nation will rise, and its the borders will extend to the Black Sea, and from there to the distant world.

"Poet of the departing nobility" of Russia Ivan Bunin:

- I am now completely free in that wonderful country that has just opened up to me. I dreamed of this country as the vast spring expanses of all that southern Rus', which more and more captivated my imagination with both its antiquity and modernity. In modern times there was a great and rich land, the beauty of its fields and steppes, farms and villages, the Dnieper and Kyiv, a strong and gentle people, beautiful and tidy in every detail of their life - the heir to the true Slavs, the Danube, the Carpathians.

Nowadays it has become fashionable to throw around expressions such as “Ukrainophobia.” They say that Putin’s Kiselevism paints a propaganda image of Ukrainians, which is being implanted in the country. It is worth understanding how the Ukrainian idea was perceived among authentic Russians - before the Revolution and in the White emigration.

First, it is worth understanding that the “Ukrainians” we know and love (at least we know) were born in the Soviet Union and with the support of the Soviet government. The very concept of Ukrainian nationalism existed before the Revolution; it appeared in the second half of the 19th century. But that “Ukrainianism” was a marginal phenomenon; We wrote about its origins. In Russian society, these people were considered freaks and sectarians. Ukrainians were criticized by various segments of the population, both among the guardians of the Black Hundred movement and among nationalist critics of the Tsarist government. On the conservative side, it is worth noting Andrei Vladimirovich Storozhenko, a famous historian, Slavist and literary critic. He is considered one of the main experts on Ukraine and was a member of the Kiev Club of Russian Nationalists, one of the main right-wing intellectual centers in the country. After the Revolution, the Bolsheviks shot Club members according to lists; Storozhenko is one of the few who managed to escape from the Cheka.

Storozhenko interpreted Ukrainian nationalism as cultural atavism; as a retreat from Russian culture provoked by the Poles and Austrians. In his opinion, the Russian population, having lost Russian culture, becomes a barbaric non-donation. A. Tsarinny cites in his book “Ukrainian separatism in Russia. The Ideology of National Schism” quote from Storozhenko, in which he outlined these thoughts very briefly:

“Getting acquainted with the figures of the Ukrainian movement, starting from 1875, not from books, but in living images, we got the impression that “Ukrainians” are precisely individuals who have deviated from the all-Russian look towards reproducing the ancestors of foreign Turkic blood, standing in the cultural relations are significantly lower than the Russian race"

Because on the territory of the so-called “Ukraine” there is no other culture other than Russian; Ukrainians or “Mazepas,” as they were called before the Revolution, have to turn to other cultures, including autochthonous ones, i.e. nomads. As Storozhenko notes:

“The “Ukrainian idea” is a gigantic step back, a retreat from Russian culture to Turkic or Berendey barbarism”

Storozhenko was a major expert on the history of southern Russia, a true scholar and a convinced Russian patriot and nationalist - he was a member of the Kyiv Club of Russian Nationalists and the All-Russian National Union. After he was nearly shot by the Bolsheviks, his works were banned in the Soviet Union. They were declared “bourgeois-landowner, great-power” literature, because they interfered with Ukrainization.
The Ukrainian idea itself was by no means associated with Little Russians or even Galicians. Especially the Galicians were still Russian patriots at that time, to the point that the Austrians had to build the Talerhof concentration camp and hang Russian nationalists from Galicia en masse. By the way, at one of these trials, the great-grandfather of the famous Ukrainian nationalist Oleg Tyagnibok, Longin Tsegelsky, acted as a witness for the prosecution.

The bearers of the Ukrainian idea, in addition to sectarians from Austrian test tubes and urban madmen, were primarily perceived as Poles and Jews. For example, the famous Russian nationalist and publicist Mikhail Osipovich Menshikov describes the demonstration Ukrainian nationalists in 1914 near the Austrian embassy in Kyiv thus:

“So, we waited for this shame: in Kyiv the red banner of the separation of Little Russia from Russia was thrown out. Let this banner, thrown away by the Jews and boys, be immediately torn down and the criminal brawlers beaten by the crowd. Revolutionary crowds wandered from the polytechnic to such central points as St. Vladimir Cathedral and Bogdan Khmelnitsky Square. The same crowds moved along Kyiv's Nevsky Prospekt - along Khreshchatyk. “Long live independent Ukraine!” Long live Austria! Down with Russia!” - this is what the Jews and Mazeppians shouted and roared in front of the Austrian consulate, and, as the telegram says, “demonstrators beat those who protested from the public.” If not for the intervention of the Cossacks and soldiers, the rebels would undoubtedly have gained the upper hand: “Among the demonstrators, more than half were Jews. It was led by a Jewish student, who rode around the city on horseback and made his orders...”

Three years earlier, the creator of the All-Russian National Union and Stolypin’s personal friend Menshikov gave the following characterization to the Ukrainian movement:

“The most ardent of them refuse the historical names “Russia”, “Russians”. They do not even recognize themselves as Little Russians, but have invented a special national title: “Ukraine”, “Ukrainians”. They hate the common people's closeness of the Little Russian dialect to the Great Russian, and so they compose their own special language, perhaps more distant from the Great Russian. There is no need that the supposedly invented Ukrainian jargon is completely ugly, like a gross falsification, ugly to the point that the Little Russians themselves do not understand this gibberish - the fanatics of Ukrainian separatism print books and newspapers called gibberish. The Mazeppians introduce systematic distortions and forgeries into the science of Russian history in general and southern Russian history in particular, and the most extreme psychopaths of this party proclaimed the need for Little Russians to marry Jewish women in order to move as far as possible from the all-Russian culture with blood and flesh.”

It is obvious that these people, in general, had little in common with modern Ukrainian nationalists. The Ukrainian nationalist before the Revolution was an urban madman, trying to introduce more Polish words into the Russian language and offering to have intercourse with Jews in order to distance himself from Great Russian heredity. Just a few years later, Ukrainian nationalism became famous for the fact that, in the person of Petliura, it organized such monstrous pogroms against Jews that the “white punisher” Ungern nervously smoked on the sidelines.

The Russian nationalist White Guards faced the latest, militant version of Ukrainian nationalism after the Revolution. First of all, Ukrainian nationalists were perceived as Judas, traitors, traitors. One of the leaflets of the Armed Forces of Southern Russia for 1919 announced:

“The Southwestern region is Russian, Russian, Russian... and it will not be given over to either Ukrainian traitors or Jewish executioners”

At the same time, the traitors knew that they were traitors, and at first they tried to avoid clashes with yesterday’s brothers. Pavel Feofanovich Shandruk, staff captain of the Russian Imperial Army, later a Prometheist and cornet general of the Ukrainian Army People's Republic, described the incident at the very beginning in his memoirs Civil War: His Ukrainian armored train entered Melitopol, where he found some soldiers speaking Russian. Thinking that they were Bolsheviks, he ordered fire on them. In response, “polite people” opened counter fire and raised the Russian tricolor. The soldiers turned out to be a detachment of Mikhail Gordeevich Drozdovsky; they were on the famous “Drozdovsky campaign” from Romania to the Don. Shandruk sent an envoy to Drozdovsky, and Drozdovsky announced that he would leave the city - with or without a fight. Shandruk, realizing that he would have to deal not with the grimy Red Guards, but with the “First Brigade of Russian Volunteers,” was afraid of them and ordered them to be let through. The Drozdovites calmly continued on their way.

Drozdovsky, a hero of the First World War, a holder of the Order of St. George and a monarchist, left a note in his diary about his attitude towards the Ukrainians. Of particular interest is the behavior of the Germans, who had no illusions about their Murzilkas:

“The Germans are enemies, but we respect them, although we hate them... Ukrainians - there is nothing but contempt for them, as for renegades and unbridled gangs. The Germans treat Ukrainians with undisguised contempt, bullying, pushing. They call it a gang, a rabble; When the Ukrainians tried to seize our car, a German commandant was present at the station and shouted at the Ukrainian officer: “So that this doesn’t happen to me again.” The difference in attitude towards us, hidden enemies, and towards Ukrainians, allies, is incredible. One of the officers of the passing Ukrainian train said to the German: it would be necessary to disarm them, that is, us, and received the answer: they are also fighting the Bolsheviks, they are not hostile to us, they are pursuing the same goals as us, and he would not have dared to say such a thing, he believes dishonest... The Ukrainian jumped back..."

There were no negotiations with the separatists. General Mai-Maevsky clearly stated that “Petliura will either stand on our platform as a single indivisible Russia with a broad territorial identity, or he will have to fight with us.” followed fighting and the capture of Kyiv - in fact, these events are the only episode in history that can be called a “Russian-Ukrainian” war. This war was brilliantly won by the Whites (i.e., the Russians), and the White Guards who entered Kyiv dispersed the entire UPR army. There were 18 thousand regular UPR fighters in Kyiv, in addition, there were 5 thousand partisans in the city area. 3,000 White Guards and another thousand soldiers from officer squads entered the city - the Ukrainian “army” capitulated without offering resistance. General Bredov announced after the “battle” that “Kyiv has never been Ukrainian and never will be.”

There were no further negotiations - only with the “Western Ukrainians”, or rather, the Russian people from the Ukrainian Galician Army. Bredov continued negotiations with them and achieved the Zyatkov Treaty - the entry of the Galician Army into the Armed Forces of Southern Russia. Bredov ordered the rest of the so-called “Ukrainians” to be told that “...let them not come, they will be arrested and shot as traitors and bandits.”

However, the White Guards clashed with the Ukrainians not only in the South. Patriots of the Wild Field came across in other regions, which sometimes led to funny episodes. The Knight of St. George and hero of the White Struggle in Siberia, General Sakharov, describes one of these cases:

“I had to travel in the carriage with several officers. Two of them were sitting, but one did not have enough space and stood. In the corner stood some railway worker with a bright yellow-blue “Ukrainian” ribbon in his buttonhole and ranted about “independent Ukraine” in exaggerated Khokhlatsky jargon. The lieutenant listened to him, listened, and said:

- “That’s it, sir, get out of the corner, I want to sit.” The road is Russian, and the Samara province is also Russian; it won’t get to Ukraine.”

- “How so?” Excuse me, what right do you have?” the blue-and-yellow railway worker switched to literary Russian.

- “And this, sir, is that I’m Russian, which means I’m at home here, master.” So go to Ukraine and sit there. Well! get out!“
Looking around in confusion, the newly-minted Ukrainian emerged from the compartment and even from the carriage to the laughter of the rest of the audience.”

The polemics with the Ukrainians continued after the Bolshevik victory in exile. Even more - only in emigration were Ukrainian traitors finally able to calmly write their separatist books and draw maps of Ukraine from the Carpathians to the Kuban, since, unfortunately, there were no longer steel regiments of the White Army nearby. One of the most remarkable Russian responses to Ukrainianism was published in Belgrade, in 1939. It was written by a controversial and controversial figure - V.V. Shulgin, but we cannot disagree with his arguments in this work. This work is called “Ukrainians and We.” In it, he briefly describes the history of the Ukrainians, proves the absurdity of their historical and national concept, and gives an overview current situation. In his opinion, the established Ukrainian nation is a product of unfortunate historical events and, naturally, the defeat of Russia. He summarizes:

"Here Short story Ukrainianization. It was invented by the Poles (Count Jan Potocki); brought to its feet by the Austro-Germans (“I made Ukraine!” - statement of General Hoffmann); but it was consolidated by the Bolsheviks, who have been Ukrainianizing without waking up for 20 years now (Stalin’s constitution of 1937)”

This is the verdict of the Russian people. No matter who among the real Russians encountered the so-called Ukrainians - tsarist scientists, nationalist publicists, White Guard officers, ordinary Russian peasants - they all met the Ukrainians with hostility. As staunch supporters Historical Russia, seeing in it a moral ideal, we can only repeat Shulgin’s prophecy and dream, which he put at the very end of his work:

“The time will come when, instead of the lies and misanthropy of Ukrainian schismatics, truth, harmony and love will triumph under high hand United Indivisible Russia!

EXTRACTS FROM AN INTERVIEW WITH A JOURNALIST
D.S.: The Ukrainian nation, which has been in a state of national building for more than a hundred years, the people who are engaged in this - the Ukrainian national intelligentsia - they lovingly cultivated contradictions between people who call themselves Ukrainians and Russians from greater Russia. There was also a split between us along religious lines.

On Grushevsky Street in Kyiv I saw monks of the Uniate Ukrainian Church and monks of the Kiev Pechersk Lavra standing shoulder to shoulder on the line of confrontation. Rockets, firecrackers, rubber bullets and stones flew through them.

It seemed to me, and I really wanted, that after this the contradictions between our churches would dry up. But this was not destined to come true. In just a few months, in relations between Russians and Ukrainians, all the veils were torn off, all the wounds were etched, fingers were inserted into them, and these wounds were torn.

Unfortunately, we will be enemies for a very long time. I don’t know how the events in Slavyansk, in the South-East of Ukraine, will end, but the fact that we will continue to be hostile for a very long time is true.

Y.K.: I studied in Lvov during the decline of the USSR, when Banderaism was raising its head. Then this mass was formed, the energy was collected at certain points. But there have been no attempts at such obvious radical protest yet. It matured and accumulated with a pronounced anti-Russian, anti-Russian character. On the Maidan in Kyiv, I felt like in Lvov more than 20 years ago, I recognized and remembered the same nature of Russophobic energy. But some political scientists in Moscow said that the Maidan is a protest, there is a healthy force there.

Tell us about the morphology of your views about what is happening in Ukraine.

D.S.: At first we perceived Maidan favorably, seeing there what Russia lacks, some kind of national revival, or something. I really envied the Ukrainians that they could sing two dozen of their folk songs in a row. I was jealous that they had distinct national clothes. I still don’t know what Russian people’s national clothes are. Red blouse? Maybe. Accordion boots? They had it all.

But I was looking for an excuse for them. I was looking for an excuse for their Russophobia. I told myself how much they had heard from the Russians good words about your nationality? Only bad jokes, mockery of the language, anecdotes, fuss for gas and everything else. I realized that Russia, in principle, for twenty years had done nothing to bind Ukraine to itself. On the contrary, I just watched as this abscess was opened. Then on Instytutskaya Street they deliberately shed blood in order to legitimize this coup - with the help of blood it is very convenient, and in order to identify the enemy: the conditionally pro-Russian Yanukovych and Russia.

After the blood, the attitude towards us instantly changed. We were not allowed into the hotel because we were Muscovites, although we lived there and paid for the rooms. They bullied us when we spoke Russian. They pointedly refused to speak to us in our language, although people, of course, knew Russian perfectly well and we explained to them: "We're filming for Russian television and not everyone will understand the language, but you want to convey your thoughts to Russia. Talk to us in a language that will be understandable to viewers of our TV channel “Komsomolskaya Pravda”. And then, at the end, when the Maidan won and turned into a huge memorial, littered with fresh flowers and half-rotten mourning signs...

Case in point. We spent a week transmitting materials over the Internet from the apartment of our Kyiv friends. During this time, four concierges changed before our eyes. The first three immediately called the police and the SBU, saying that spies had arrived from Russia, they needed to be arrested, interrogated and shot. The police reluctantly came to the third call, and then did not respond to calls - the Kiev police somehow became smarter, or calmer, or the Maidan gave them some kind of inoculation against loyalty to the new authorities. The fourth concierge simply became angry with us - she expressed everything that she thinks about the Russians, about Russia, about the Kremlin, about the fact that we grabbed God by the beard, that having arrived in Ukraine, if you please, speak Ukrainian, etc.

And then I understood everything. I am terribly disappointed in the Maidan. For 11 years I worked on mass unrest, ethnic clashes, revolutions, and wars. I feel the energy of any crowd with my skin. Behind last week our work on the Maidan, it was approximately the first ten days of April, Sasha and I did not utter a single Russian word on the Maidan. We just didn't talk. If they asked us about something, we kept silent. When, during the attempt to storm the building of the Dnepr Hotel by the Right Sectors, some guy asked me which hundred I was from, I mumbled something in response.

Y.K.: The Maidan, which gathered under the slogan of the fight against the oligarchs, brought to power Poroshenko - a man who, so to speak, is “flesh oligarch”, “chocolate king”. Oxymoron, is there some kind of paranoia going on?

D.S.: No, not paranoia, this is a perfect example. There are two types of logic. There is Aristotelian logic, where one statement is true and the other is false. And Maidan and the current Ukrainian government and, in general, the worldview of part of Ukraine are an example of quantum logic, where all statements are conditionally true. Therefore, in the wake of the fight against the oligarchs, they had an oligarch president. In fact, there is a different background there. I think that, as Napoleon said, you cannot sit on bayonets. It also seems to me that you cannot build your power only on hatred of Russians and Russia.

Why is the Ukrainian haystack doomed?

Y.K.: Hatred for everything Russian was camouflaged at first, but already at the inauguration Poroshenko voiced principles that deprive the Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine of any alternative. These are the very pillars of the genocide that is now being carried out in Slavyansk.